Bat Rules Clarification for 50/70 and Junior Division

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  • The Little League website states that all 2 5/8 composite bats for 50/70 and Junior Division must have a BBCOR stamp. Problem is when you look at composite bats that are appropriate size/weight for 11, 12 and 13 year olds(-10, -8 or -5 composite), none are BBCOR certified. You don't see BBCOR certified bats until you get in -3 bats which are high school size bats. So are the bats stamped 1.15 BPF USSSA approved on the 2 5/8 bats mean they are not acceptable? Thank you for helping clarify this.



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  • LeeAnn,

    You are correct, the only BBCOR bats have a -3 ratio.

    If you want a weight of less than -3, you will need to look into a bat with some type of a metal barrel.

    Many of these have composite handles which are fine.

    The 1.15 stamp is not necessary at the 50-70 or Juniors level although it is uncommon to find one without it.

  • Jon - The latest info posted in the Bat FAQ on the LL web site says that 2-1/4" metal/alloy barrel bats used in INT/JRS must be BPF 1.15 or less. 2-1/4" composite barrel bats are NOT allowed in INT/JRS.

  • Mark,

    I've seen that and don't mean to be "that guy" but..... neither 1.10 or the RIM list any such requirement.

    The Juniors and above have never required BPF 1.15 so it seems a little strange now.

    My personal opinion is that FAQ needs another look over at HQ.

  • Yeah, a 12 year old can't use his LL composite, but it's okay to use his LL metal bat.

    He also can use a completely unregulated 2 5/8" metal bat.

    Williamsport has been completely silent on the logic of these rules.

    Jon, I've seen the wording requiring 1.15 for the 2 1/4" metal bats for INT and Juniors. Again, this makes zero sense with you mix in the 2 5/8" bats.

  • thank you everyone!

  • My son plays in the intermediate division in orange county,california. we bought him an easton power brigade big barrell bat with a -10. we were told by one umpire that its legal and another umpire said no he can not use it. please help me and let me know for sure

  • April....need more details on the model number. Bottom line is if it has a composite barrel, illegal. If it is a 2 5/8" big barrel and is metal/alloy or a hybrid (composite handle, metal/alloy barrel), the it is legal.

  • I have looked on LL website and can only find 2 5/8 dia. bat rules from 2012. Based on what I'm reading there is plenty of confusion. 2012 rules say that 2 5/8 barrel must have BBCOR stamp and -3 drop if composite. If not composite, then BBCOR stamp and any drop. Has anyone found anything different?

  • Wayne - The bat rule did not change this year, so the 2012 info still applies. BBCOR only comes in 2-5/8" with -3 drop. For Seniors and Bigs ALL bats need to be BBCOR. For INT/JRS composite barrels must be BBCOR.

    The FAQ was updated in Feb 2013 to include the info I posted above. I know some argue that this is not in the "book" but I know I intend to enforce and will be teaching this in clinic this weekend.

  • I manage in my league and am on the board of directors. My desire is for my son and all the players in my league to be safe. I am definitely ok with strict rules. I'm looking at LL site now. Where is this addressed? Can you cut/paste the URL?

  • I found it. Thanks!!

  • 50/70 (Intermediate) and Juniors - DO NOT LOOK AT THAT APPROVED LIST ON THE LL WEBSITE!!! That list is for Majors and below!!!! Can't tell you how many times dads pull out their Smart Phones to show me the LIST. I tell them to read the subject and paragraph on top of the list and when they're done reading to tell me what level ballgame are you here to watch...

    2 1/4 bats allowed for these divisions - wood or metal alloy - NO COMPOSITE 2 1/4 BATS!

    2 5/8 bats allowed - wood or metal alloy - if has composite barrel HAS TO BE BBCOR

    Length cannot exceed 34 inches.

  • So for the Intermediate Division can a 2 1/4 bat have a composite handle but a alloy barrel?

  • @ Kip, Yes. You're telling me the BARREL is alloy, right? As long as the barrel is NOT composite.

    Composite BARREL = NO!!!

    Metal alloy BARREL = YES

    Please Read Rule 1.10 in the Official Playing Regulations and Rules for Baseball.

  • The bats rules for these divisions are confusing because they defy logic.

    Composites are dumbed down to BBCOR, yet metal bats have no certification at all. Unless they're 2 1/4".

    Someone (like Williamsport) really needs to explain this.

  • As I understand the rule and the info in the FAQ's on LL website this is what is currently allowed/not allowed for Intermediate and Juniors. The composition of the handle does not matter, only the barrel.

    2-1/4" metal/alloy barrel - allowed - MUST be BPF 1.15 or less

    2-1/4" wood - allowed

    2-1/4" composite barrel - NOT allowed

    2-5/8" metal/alloy barrel - allowed - no markings required

    2-5/8" wood - allowed

    2-5/8" composite barrel - allowed - MUST be BBCOR

    Agree with Kyle - not sure why 2-1/4" metal/alloy must be BPF 1.15 and 2-5/8" metal/alloy are unrestricted.

  • Once again you need a law degree to figure out a rule in the book. Wording very confusing and sure to cause some trouble this season in 50/70.

  • Not really. It's the same as Juniors have been.

  • 31" length

    -10 Length to Weight Ratio

    2 5/8 Inch Barrel Diameter

    Carbon Fiber Handle / AZ3000 Alloy Barrel

    The bat with the link is legal for 50-70 and Juniors

  • Even though it says that there is some composite at the end of the bat?????

  • Marucci is creating some confusion. At the top of their page, they reference an alloy barrel. Then, in their description "...Marucci's patented technology allows for industry best weight reductions by fusing composite and aluminum materials together along the length of the barrel. By replacing the final inches of the bat, including the endcap, with aerospace grade composite materials,...."

    I'm sure more of our LL experts will jump in, but isn't their description is kind of saying the barrel is composite?

    In May/June 2012, Marucci's CAT5 and Black Black bats were both decertified for use in Little League and other Baseball organizations that required BBCOR for composite bats. IMO, they may be skating on some thin ice again???????

  • Is there someone at little league I could email to get correct answer?

  • http://maruccisports.com/metal-bats/league/senior-league/elite.html

    Check the bat for the BBCOR mark. If it has BBCOR, it would be legal regardless of the makeup. According to that web page it is BBCOR and according to the washington state testing page, it is BBCOR. Washington State calls it a composite.

    http://www.mme.wsu-ssl.org/certifiedbaseballbats.aspx

    Apparently, BBCOR bats that are more than -3 are now being made... ugh.

    NOTE: Intermediate / Junior rules say composite bats must be BBCOR. It does NOT say anything about -3 drop. (See below)

    Ironically, this bat, while called senior league, is illegal for senior league... because it isn't -3 drop.

    Also note on the Washington State website... only 31, 32, 33, 34 meet BBCOR. I don't see 28, 29, 30 mentioned on there.

    Intermediate (50/70) Division/Junior League; it shall not be more than 34 inches in length; nor more than 2 5/8 inches in diameter, and if wood, not less than fifteen- sixteenths (15/16) inches in diameter (7/8 inch for bats less than 30”) at its smallest part. All composite barrel bats shall meet the Batted Ball Coefficient of Restitution (BBCOR) performance standard, and such bats shall be so labeled with a silk screen or other

    permanent certification mark. The certification mark shall be rectangular, a minimum of a half-inch on each side and located on the barrel of the bat in any contrasting color.

    Senior/Big League it shall not be more than 36 inches in length, nor more than 2 5/8 inches in diameter, and if wood, not less than fifteen-sixteenths (15/16) inches in diameter (7/8 inch for bats less than 30”) at its smallest part. The bat shall not weigh, numerically, more than three ounces less than the length of the bat (e.g., a 33-inch-long bat cannot weigh less than 30 ounces). All bats not made of a single piece of

    wood shall meet the Batted Ball Coefficient of Restitution (BBCOR) performance standard, and such bats shall be so labeled with a silkscreen or other permanent certification mark. The certification mark shall be rectangular, a minimum of a half-inch on each side and located on the barrel of the bat in any contrasting color. Aluminum and composite bats shall be marked as to their material makeup being aluminum or composite. This marking shall be silkscreen or other permanent certification mark, a minimum of one-half- inch on each side and located on the barrel of the bat in any contrasting color.

  • Wow! Your the Man!!!!

    I have to save this for the guy that tells me its illegal

    Thanks!!!

  • Beginning this year, bats are required to have a screen on them that say BBCOR .50. This being a new bat, it should say that if BBCOR approved.

  • I just called Marucci directly and they said that the Senior league -10 bat will not have a BBCOR stamp on it and that the Washington Website is listing a 31,32,33,34 all -3. But he did say that the Barrel is all alloy until the last 2" and including the end cap. So now I'm back to zero!

  • if the last 2 inches is not alloy, then it is a composite barrel.

    Marucci is going to find themselves out of business if they keep this stuff up. That web page lists bats that are not BBCOR and it has the BBCOR logo on the bottom of the web page.

    On the whole, I'm still confused because I didn't think BBCOR was allowing less than -3 drop.

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